# 4A Binds **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [March 30, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863 "2010-03-30T03:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/1 "2010-03-30T03:16:10Z")
My 4A binds are not working. When I try to do a bind, the string doesn’t stick in the gap, and the yoyo slides right off. What can I do to get the yoyo to return, so I don’t have to constantly hand wind it up. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/2 "2010-03-30T03:25:25Z")
What yoyo are you using? Try having the yoyo higher up the string so that you are throwing more string into the gap. ---
**Author:** ![pickle24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pickle24/32/483_2.png) [@pickle24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pickle24)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/3 "2010-03-30T15:16:28Z")
Try wrapping the string around once then do the bind. ---
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/4 "2010-03-30T23:35:03Z")
Im using an Atmosphere. Wrapping the string around once works, but is there an easier way? ---
**Author:** ![Ewski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Ewski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ewski)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/5 "2010-03-30T23:40:32Z")
I would definitely suggest getting a real offstring yo-yo. The Atmosphere has a huge gap and is not practical at all for 4a. I would recommend the Bigyo from Yoyojam (my favorite offstring). Or maybe wait for the Fiesta to release. ---
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/6 "2010-03-30T23:52:25Z")
I am just testing out 4A to see if I want to get into it. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/7 "2010-03-31T04:17:49Z")
You’ll probably like it more if you can actually bind it. 😛 I don’t know his name, but there is a guy (along with others) that always wrap around once. ---
**Author:** ![noyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noyo/32/441_2.png) [@noyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noyo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/8 "2010-03-31T04:19:56Z")
My Hayabusa sl is REALLY unresponsive so I use double binds, but on the atmosphere you may need a triple bind :wink: And putting some thick lube in your bearing would help too. ---
**Author:** ![Mamonga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mamonga/32/165_2.png) [@Mamonga](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mamonga)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/9 "2010-03-31T04:55:51Z")
> [@Amdroid](#): > > I am just testing out 4A to see if I want to get into it. > [@Amdroid](#): > > Im using an Atmosphere. > Wrapping the string around once works, but is there an easier way? It might be just me, but I think part of the fun is using an actual offstring yoyo to play. It feels right. If you really want to get a feel for it, I suggest either getting an offstring yo-yo from the site or buying one of Josh(Jayyo)'s dyed Aquarius. That where i got my first off string throw and I haven’t done any other style since I got it. It’s really addicting. But if you are persistent about using the Atmosphere, then, like baileyt suggested, put some thick lube in the bearing and get used to double binding. ---
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binds/12863/10 "2010-03-31T12:33:40Z")
Ok, thanks. Ill try and get one of those