# 4a binding **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [August 23, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804 "2012-08-23T15:42:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/1 "2012-08-23T15:42:19Z")
Its impossible. Is there any trick to this? ---
**Author:** ![VinegarEel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vinegareel/32/872_2.png) [@VinegarEel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/VinegarEel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/2 "2012-08-23T16:03:17Z")
Try forcing the string into the gape some more. Also, make sure that the gap is small and the response system is strong so it can come back up. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/3 "2012-08-23T16:42:04Z")
Also, make sure that it’s a 4a yoyo. It will not grab off of a regular 4a bind if it’s a 1a yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/4 "2012-08-23T17:23:36Z")
Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![yoyoer8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoer8/32/963_2.png) [@yoyoer8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoer8)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/5 "2012-08-23T17:27:23Z")
I’m using a speed dial and all I do is tighten the gap. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/6 "2012-08-23T17:28:51Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 Yup, that explains it. Get yourself a 4a yoyo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoyoer8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoer8/32/963_2.png) [@yoyoer8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoer8)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/7 "2012-08-23T17:30:13Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 use the small bearing maybe?? ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/8 "2012-08-23T17:31:53Z")
> [@yoyoer8](#): > > > [@Lorayn](#): > > > > Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 > > use the small bearing maybe?? It will still get dinged up. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoer8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoer8/32/963_2.png) [@yoyoer8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoer8)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/9 "2012-08-23T17:32:53Z")
> [@Shadowz143](#): > > > [@yoyoer8](#): > > > > > [@Lorayn](#): > > > > > > Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 > > > > use the small bearing maybe?? > > It will still get dinged up. play on grass or carpet ---
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/10 "2012-08-23T18:03:52Z")
Can someone recommend (cheap) 4a yoyos? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/11 "2012-08-23T18:09:06Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > Can someone recommend (cheap) 4a yoyos? > Thanks How cheap? The Go big is great! The Fiesta xx is awesome! The Griffon wing by Shinwoo is cheap, and great! ---
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/12 "2012-08-23T18:10:27Z")
> [@Shadowz143](#): > > > [@Lorayn](#): > > > > Can someone recommend (cheap) 4a yoyos? > > Thanks > > How cheap? > > The Go big is great! > > The Fiesta xx is awesome! > > The Griffon wing by Shinwoo is cheap, and great! I’m thinking of 10-20 dollars if that’s possible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sgt1yoyo1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sgt1yoyo1/32/242554_2.png) [@Sgt1yoyo1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sgt1yoyo1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/13 "2012-08-23T18:13:18Z")
The Hayabusa is a pretty fine offstring for beginners.  That’s what I use and I really enjoy it.  Pretty great throw for $22. > **[Duncan](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/Duncan)** > > Duncan is the most widely recognized yo-yo name in the entire world. Since 1929, the name "Duncan" has been synonymous with "yo-yo" across the United States, and for good reason! Their yo-yos represent the top-of-the-line for beginners or... ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/14 "2012-08-23T18:35:59Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > > [@Shadowz143](#): > > > > > [@Lorayn](#): > > > > > > Can someone recommend (cheap) 4a yoyos? > > > Thanks > > > > How cheap? > > > > The Go big is great! > > > > The Fiesta xx is awesome! > > > > The Griffon wing by Shinwoo is cheap, and great! > > I’m thinking of 10-20 dollars if that’s possible. 🙂 Then the fiesta xx and griffin Wing fit right in! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/15 "2012-08-23T20:34:56Z")
Cheap and great? Shinwoo Griffin Wing. Big catch zone. Easier than the Hayabusa! However, get the Duncan mod spacers and it will be better. Better? Fiesta XX. My personal choice. ---
**Author:** ![jsell14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jsell14/32/1030_2.png) [@jsell14](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jsell14)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/16 "2012-08-23T20:43:34Z")
I agree with everyone that has said the Fiesta XX. It is a great 4A beginners yoyo. It goes about $2 over your budget but is definantly worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/17 "2012-08-23T22:12:15Z")
Ok thanks. I think I’ll get a fiesta xx. Looks like i have to tell my dad to order fiesta instead of genesis for my birthday. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/18 "2012-08-23T22:19:36Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > Ok thanks. I think I’ll get a fiesta xx. > > Looks like i have to tell my dad to order fiesta instead of genesis for my birthday. 😃 Instead of Genesis??? ---
**Author:** ![Lorayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lorayn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lorayn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/19 "2012-08-23T22:30:23Z")
> [@Shadowz143](#): > > > [@Lorayn](#): > > > > Ok thanks. I think I’ll get a fiesta xx. > > > > Looks like i have to tell my dad to order fiesta instead of genesis for my birthday. 😃 > > Instead of Genesis??? Yep I wanted genesis more than anything (but I’m not good enough for it yet. Too advanced for me) And it costs a lot. So I decided to get it when I get better at yoyoing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Taluboots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Taluboots](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Taluboots)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804/20 "2012-08-23T23:29:43Z")
> [@Lorayn](#): > > Oh. I see. I have a DM II here. Maybe that’s why. 😛 I use the DMII all the time for 4A. Just use the narrow bearing, and play over carpet. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-binding/41804.md?page=2)