# 40 years cube free

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494>\
**Category:** Skill Toys\
**Created:** [March 9, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494 "2020-03-09T17:47:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![beherenow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beherenow/32/125309_2.png) [@beherenow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beherenow)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/61 "2020-03-14T20:09:22Z")

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These are the ones I got. Not sure if they compete with the linked ones, but they turn well/smooth.  
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPSJMBW](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPSJMBW)

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**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/62 "2020-03-15T22:39:34Z")

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I’m working on a drinking based cube conrets butt it’s glow slowing.

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**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/63 "2020-03-21T07:48:41Z")

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@kevinm I was on the fence about giving this second try after having no joy many years ago. BUT, the videos and this thread were pretty compelling, so I’m going at it. I know my brain, and instead of going all the way through, I’ve been working on each step until I have it down and relatively fast before moving on to the next. Thanks to @Pankace04 for the recommendations.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/64 "2020-05-16T18:11:32Z")

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I had a Rubik’s Cube back around 1981 and learned from another kid how to solve it, but then put it away and didn’t pay attention to cubing for a good three decades. Then I got curious about it again several years back and picked up a couple asian cubes and a Rubik’s DIY cube, re-learned how to solve it, and then put it away again.

I’m thinking of getting a Valk 3 Elite M, just to have a “luxury model” in my collection. And maybe I’ll re-learn how to solve it _again_. Something about this puzzle toy keeps catching my attention.

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**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/65 "2020-06-13T16:02:41Z")

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UPDATE: So I picked up one of @Pankace04 Josiah’s suggestions, the MoFang JiaoShi MF3RS3 M. (The last cube I had was around 1980, so I was also about 40 years cube free, and I frustratingly never got anywhere with that first cube.) Instead of trying to learn it all in one go, I knew I would do better in sections. So, I watched a couple of the beginner method videos and would only add the next step once I had everything polished up to that point. Sometimes I didn’t look up the next step for a week or more, but I kept doing what I knew each day, getting faster and faster with that. Up until a few days ago I was up to the bottom 2/3 solved plus a top mixed cross.

Finally, after a few weeks of not checking, I looked up the next step. My recollection was that these last steps were more complex than everything else, but that impression must have been due to a different video. J Perm’s beginner tutorial video was simple enough that instead of just adding one step, I watched and was able to do the rest. I CAN NOW SOLVE A 3X3 CUBE, YAY!!!

I just wanted to thank everyone in this thread, this is so satisfying.

Just yesterday my wife asked me to teach her. I ordered the recommended Kylin V2 M, mostly so we could try something different.

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**Author:** ![100FatYoyoDads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/100fatyoyodads/32/198123_2.png) [@100FatYoyoDads](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/100FatYoyoDads)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/66 "2020-06-13T16:07:11Z")

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I was a speed Cuber before I became a yo-yoer… I averaged 16 seconds. I still have all my cubes. I have all wca puzzles except 6 and 7. Megaminx was my favorite event.

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**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/67 "2020-06-13T16:19:46Z")

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What solve do you do? (For 3x3)

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**Author:** ![100FatYoyoDads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/100fatyoyodads/32/198123_2.png) [@100FatYoyoDads](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/100FatYoyoDads)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/68 "2020-06-13T16:23:21Z")

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ZZ. I also use ZZ for megaminx and 4x4.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/69 "2020-06-13T16:29:48Z")

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Congratulations!

That first solve is so satisfying, isn’t it?

I’m currently transitioning from beginner method to CFOP, myself. I made a Cross training cube out of a cheap $5 cube and am trying to work on the whole 8-moves-or-less cross solving process. I have “intuitive F2L” down pat at this point, but am unsure whether to focus on F2L efficiency or two-look OLL next (I already have the first “look” of OLL down, along with the “beginner PLL” algs like U, H, A, and E perms). I still don’t really have any finger tricks embedded into muscle memory yet.

Because of all of the above, my solve times are probably somewhere around the 2 minute mark, though to be honest I haven’t timed myself yet.

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**Author:** ![griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/griffin/32/97968_2.png) [@griffin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/griffin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/70 "2020-06-13T16:59:15Z")

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I love cubing as well. This is my collection and I can solve all except the megaminx

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/e/5/7e553d0f308b60fb4d1c0842fcac56f089fd3bf1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/71 "2020-06-13T17:08:24Z")

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Most of your speed improvement will be from F2L since that should be about half of your solve time alone but I would just complete learning all the 2LOLL algs now just to get it out of the way.

For good finger tricks, JPerm has a video on his finger tricks for full PLL. You can check that out and just skip to the 2LPLLs

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**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/72 "2020-06-13T17:14:09Z")

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Cool! How do you like it? I do cfob and am just learning roux.

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**Author:** ![100FatYoyoDads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/100fatyoyodads/32/198123_2.png) [@100FatYoyoDads](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/100FatYoyoDads)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/73 "2020-06-13T17:24:06Z")

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I love it. I know all 4 main methods, petrus cfop zz and roux and I’ve made my own method (it’s not very good though).

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/74 "2020-06-13T17:35:52Z")

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Which perms constitute the 2-look PLL set?

In effect, I am already doing PLL in two stages using U perm and A perm, with the occasional E, H, or Z perm when those cases come up.

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/75 "2020-06-13T18:50:11Z")

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@zslane @MattB good job guys keep going! @JWaugh and i have been racing recently and it is a ton of fun, i encourage you guys to get sub 1 (minute) and get consistent times!

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**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/76 "2020-06-13T18:52:48Z")

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So I’m having trouble with the last step in roux, at the end there are either two or four wrong edges, not three. How do I fix this?

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/77 "2020-06-13T18:55:43Z")

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you do Roux?

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**Author:** ![Travelingyoyokid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/travelingyoyokid/32/62091_2.png) [@Travelingyoyokid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Travelingyoyokid)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/78 "2020-06-13T19:00:01Z")

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Just learning, used it twice already!

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**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/79 "2020-06-13T19:00:09Z")

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I finally pb’d 45 seconds this lit

I magnetized a gan 356rs and it work beautifully

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/40-years-cube-free/316494/80 "2020-06-13T19:01:17Z")

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nice dude! magnetizing cubes intimidates me lol.

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