# 3A players help **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [November 23, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912 "2014-11-23T17:26:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![live\_wire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f1d935/32.png) [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/1 "2014-11-23T17:26:14Z")
Hello. Recently I have been trying to include pops into my kink mount combos and after entering the same position as patrick borgerding always does, I try to do the pops but the yoyo on the other hand just keeps jerking upwards. I also noticed that he does a keychain each pop, is that necessary? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/2 "2014-11-23T19:31:06Z")
Let’s see if we can get the man himself to help out. What’s a keychain? ---
**Author:** ![DCM92Lude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@DCM92Lude](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DCM92Lude)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/3 "2014-11-23T20:27:26Z")
> [@MattB](#): > > Let’s see if we can get the man himself to help out. What’s a keychain? I’m pretty sure a one finger spin from the split bottom mount ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBorgerding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@PatrickBorgerding](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PatrickBorgerding)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/4 "2014-11-23T21:02:41Z")
> [@DCM92Lude](#): > > I’m pretty sure a one finger spin from the split bottom mount Still not exactly sure what that is. Split bottom mount would refer to a front style, like blueline, but the OP said kink, which is side style. I think you’re talking about what I refer to as ‘asian pops’ which is kinda the trick Hiroyuki made really popular, but in 3A. Is that the right trick? Could you link me to a video where I do the trick? Then I can give you some advice! ---
**Author:** ![live\_wire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f1d935/32.png) [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/5 "2014-11-24T03:59:47Z")
> [@MattB](#): > > Let’s see if we can get the man himself to help out.  What’s a keychain? The spinning on the other hand while the trick is going on. > [@PatrickBorgerding](#): > > Still not exactly sure what that is. Split bottom mount would refer to a front style, like blueline, but the OP said kink, which is side style. I think you’re talking about what I refer to as ‘asian pops’ which is kinda the trick Hiroyuki made really popular, but in 3A. Is that the right trick? > > Could you link me to a video where I do the trick? Then I can give you some advice! Oh my. Hello. Yes, the trick is Asian pops, but I call it pops since it saves me 2 syllables. At about 1:08 [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/7/2/d72d090753207198a1577c2effbfcecd5905623c.jpeg "3A Finals-2nd-Patrick Borgerding-2014 US National YoYo Contest") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnyYcDB8v4) ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBorgerding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@PatrickBorgerding](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PatrickBorgerding)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/6 "2014-11-24T21:26:32Z")
;D For sure. I was confused because when I think just ‘pop’ I think pop n’ fresh movement. I do the two variations in that routine, but the general idea is the same for each. I think the ‘keychain’ definitely helps, and I think I would say its necessary. It would be difficult to do without the keychain because it gives you a more control. For the pop-ing motion, you should use the momentum of the swinging yo-yo to help with the asian pop. The one at 1:08 is as little bit harder I think, than the one I do at 1:17. It can also help to practice the motion in 1A, or with a dead yo-yo on the other hand. Let me know if that helps at all. I can try to break it down more, but I’ll need to do that later today, or this week. ---
**Author:** ![live\_wire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f1d935/32.png) [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/3a-players-help/70912/7 "2014-11-25T07:25:39Z")
> [@PatrickBorgerding](#): > > ;D > > For sure. I was confused because when I think just ‘pop’ I think pop n’ fresh movement. > > I do the two variations in that routine, but the general idea is the same for each. I think the ‘keychain’ definitely helps, and I think I would say its necessary. It would be difficult to do without the keychain because it gives you a more control. For the pop-ing motion, you should use the momentum of the swinging yo-yo to help with the asian pop. The one at 1:08 is as little bit harder I think, than the one I do at 1:17. > > It can also help to practice the motion in 1A, or with a dead yo-yo on the other hand. > > Let me know if that helps at all. I can try to break it down more, but I’ll need to do that later today, or this week. Ok, thank you so much for the help. I’m making progress so I should be able to do the trick in awhile. Thanks again.