# $100 and looking for a Yo-Yo

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [December 22, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916 "2011-12-22T01:24:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/1 "2011-12-22T01:24:09Z")

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Hello everyone! I am looking for a recommendation, and I enjoy everyone’s input. I recieved $100 as a present and was told that I had to buy a yo-yo with it (I love my grandma!). What should I get? To give you an idea of my tastes – I have a YYF DV888, Protostar, and Northstar, and HSpin Beysick, and a YYJ DMII. I really like the DV888 and the Protostar. The HSpin has a great size and play, but the silicon wears out too quick, and the yoyo does not play “dead” enough. The DV888 is a tad small, but it is useful in the technical manuvears. The Protostar is my all-around favorite, besides the fact that it cannot do any grinds; however, it plays amazing. The DV888 and Northstar play a little heavy, but the Protostar and Beysick play amazing.

There you have it. I am looking for something smooth, dead on the string, all-metal, and preferably something that does not have the tendency to play like a rock. I prefer normal to under-sized yo-yos, but I am open to any suggestions.

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**Author:** ![potatobobguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e8c25b/32.png) [@potatobobguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/potatobobguy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/2 "2011-12-22T01:29:02Z")

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What do you mean by dead?If you like undersized, the dietz is great. It is fairly smooth,not much vibe.

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**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/3 "2011-12-22T01:30:43Z")

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Try the… One Drop 54

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**Author:** ![zerrubabbel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zerrubabbel/32/592_2.png) [@zerrubabbel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zerrubabbel)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/4 "2011-12-22T10:50:48Z")

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super G or G funk, will play well and have an awesome shape, and despite the strange wall thing, when you break it down its pretty simular to the protostar… or couple that with some other money and you could be looking at clwy s or one drops might do ya some good… take a look at the cafe racer or the dietz

just a few suggestions

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**Author:** ![bigkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bigkat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigkat)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/5 "2011-12-23T06:15:31Z")

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Smooth, light, full sized, grinds well, similar shape to protostar, $100 or under…

Sounds like a Burnside or a Code1 to me. You could also look at the \<$100 ILYY yoyo’s.

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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/6 "2011-12-23T20:42:22Z")

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Hello Everyone!

I took down all your recommendations and thought carefully about what I liked in my current set. Then, I setup a mathematical formula that allowed my to attach a number value to the width/height ratio and the overall size/weight distribution. Then I narrowed it down further by budget – eliminating all yo-yos over $100.

The winners are:

[color=green]YYF Genesis[/color]  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/87/YYF-Genesis-135](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/87/YYF-Genesis-135)

[color=orange]CLWY Avalanche Fool’s Gold[/color]  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/480/CLYW-Avalanche-Fools-Gold-W{47}-T-Shirt](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/480/CLYW-Avalanche-Fools-Gold-W%7B47%7D-T-Shirt)

[color=red]Crucial Confection[/color]

> **[Crucial](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/Crucial)**
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> Paul Yath has been in the yo-yo scene for a long time! After 8 years of competing the World Champion decided to step into the yo-yo manufacturing game to share his expertise with the world. Crucial was born and yo-yo after yo-yo his...

Any suggestions regarding these three yoyos?

Thanks for all your helps so far, and I look forward to narrowing it down with you!

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**Author:** ![sirnaq\_MN42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sirnaq_mn42/32/613_2.png) [@sirnaq\_MN42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sirnaq_MN42)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/7 "2011-12-23T20:53:55Z")

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Of those three I would get the avalanche

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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/8 "2011-12-23T23:35:51Z")

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P.S.

Does gap width influence responsiveness? My HSpin Beysick has a 4.1ish gap, and the CLYW Avalanche does as well. I do not like the Beysick because it does not play “dead” enough. The Protostar, Northstar, and DV888 all play really dead, but bind well enough (especially the “stars”). Would the Avalanche be a little too responsive?

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**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/9 "2011-12-24T00:07:33Z")

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i would go after the genesis, its a really stable yoyo and plays super smooth one of my all time favorite yoyos

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**Author:** ![bigkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bigkat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigkat)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/10 "2011-12-24T00:42:18Z")

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> [@kcwagenseller](#):
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> I do not like the Beysick because it does not play “dead” enough. The Protostar, Northstar, and DV888 all play really dead, but bind well enough (especially the “stars”).

What do you mean by playing dead?

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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/11 "2011-12-24T01:04:36Z")

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Emphatically unresponsive, but with a tight bind. This is a wonderful combination.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/12 "2011-12-24T03:18:06Z")

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You should maybe check the bearing etc on the beysick. The 4mm gap is relatively large and fairly common on hspin yoyos. I’ve heard very few people complain that they were responsive.

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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/13 "2011-12-24T06:23:26Z")

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I actually bought a kk bearing to remedy the situation and it improved a little, but not fully. I think it is the response system or something with the engineering. I have tried to communicate with HSpin twice about it. The first time, they told me, “It sounds like a technique issue with you.” I told them they were full of it.

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**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/14 "2011-12-27T23:39:36Z")

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I have 3 suggestions:  
CLYW Fool’s Gold Avalanche  
YoYoFactory G5  
IKYO Agape (made by Icthus)

FG Avalanche is just amazing, as is every CLYW. G5 is really fun with the z-stacks. The Agape is just great. It looks cool and is really stable.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/15 "2011-12-27T23:49:20Z")

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> [@kcwagenseller](#):
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> I actually bought a kk bearing to remedy the situation and it improved a little, but not fully. I think it is the response system or something with the engineering. I have tried to communicate with HSpin twice about it. The first time, they told me, “It sounds like a technique issue with you.” I told them they were full of it.

Ouch! Try siliconeing it and clean the bearing, the kk might have some lube in it.

If you really like the protostar why not get a rockstar 2012? You know that you will like it (more the. The protostar) and that it is by a great brand. The downside to this is that you won’t really get to try something different.

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**Author:** ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/16 "2013-04-25T18:43:53Z")

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So, it has been a year and a half, and I have made two yoyo purchases since this post. I came to look at recommendations and reviews, and I was once again torn between the YYF Avant Garde 2, and the CL Avalanche. This post has helped me realize that I want an Avalanche!

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**Author:** ![YoYoJordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojordan/32/123867_2.png) [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/100-and-looking-for-a-yo-yo/32916/17 "2013-05-02T03:40:55Z")

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LISTEN TO MEHHHH! Ok, good! I CANNOT recommend the MO-vitation enough! This is such an amazing yoyo for below 90 bucks! I would bail a good amount of my throws for one!
